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Ryanair backs Cork-US flights bid

Posted: 10 May 2016, 09:42
by Ryanairmadrid
Ryanair backs Cork-US flights bid

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Ryanair has backed a low-fares rival’s plans to launch the first transatlantic flights from Cork Airport, as opposition to the service mounts.

Europe’s largest airline said plans by Norwegian Air International (NAI), which are being vigorously opposed by US labour unions and traditional ‘legacy’ airlines, will result in increased competition and customer choice, a better service, and lower fares for American and European consumers.

The comments are made in Ryanair’s submission to the US Department of Transportation (DoT) as part of its final consultation process triggered by its tentative decision to approve NAI’s application for a foreign carrier permit to operate a Cork to Boston service this year, and a Cork-New York route next year.

Aviation sources described Ryanair’s intervention as “hugely significant”.

Ryanair’s chief legal and regulatory officer, Juliusz Komorek, said they are “alarmed” at an attempt by four US congressmen to introduce legislation to block the new service.

He described it as an “ill-advised attempt to protect the incumbent airlines on the transatlantic market at the expense of consumers.”

Ryanair is one of several heavy-hitters who have now lodged submissions in favour of the proposed route ahead of a protest by American unions at the White House on Thursday in support of a new law which could block the service.

NAI, the Dublin-based subsidiary of low-fares giant, Norwegian, has been waiting more than two years for the DoT permit.

After an exhaustive examination of its application, the DoT ruled in April that the airline meets the criteria under the EU-US Open Skies agreement to operate transatlantic flights.

US president Barack Obama has also said there is no legal impediment to the granting of the permit. But four congressmen have introduced legislation in a bid to change the law, which if successful, could block the issuing of the licence.

The European Commission said it is poised to engage in arbitration if there are any more attempts to block the issuing of the licence. The International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers said the DoT’s decision to tentatively approve NAI’s permit is “bad news for US airline workers”.

“NAI is registered in Ireland and will employ flight crews under Singaporean or Thai employment contracts and evade the employment and tax laws of Norway where its parent company is based,” it claimed.

“This ‘race to the bottom’ business plan is a clear violation of the US-EU Open Skies Agreement, which has a specific provision that states that the ‘opportunities created by the agreement are not intended to undermine labour standards or the labour-related rights and principles contained in the parties’ respective laws’.


“NAI’s plan to scour the globe for cheap labour is a blatant violation of the labour provisions in the agreement.

“NAI’s plans have always been about gaming trade rules, gaining an unfair competitive advantage, and beating down workers’ rights, wages, and benefits.”


NAI has rejected claims it will hire foreign workers and employ them on low wages.

The DoT consultation process ends on May 16, with a final decision on the permit due soon afterwards.

Re: Ryanair backs Cork-US flights bid

Posted: 10 May 2016, 12:25
by Sbutty
Not surprising. Ryanair would be a great feeder onto these services. Plus, I think they're planning on 737 trans Atlantic ops from cork. Which itself would be cool.

Re: Ryanair backs Cork-US flights bid

Posted: 10 May 2016, 12:39
by Ryanairmadrid
But then I guess they would have to use the 737-900 ER. Could a normal 737-800 fly a Cork - New York route?
They would need an ER otherwise their trans Atlantic flights with 738 wont be allowed.
I hope they start rapidly the Transatlantic services! :happy:

Re: Ryanair backs Cork-US flights bid

Posted: 10 May 2016, 15:55
by RyanairBristol
I would imagine they would use the 787-8 or -9 as they have 10 in service and 30 orders for the -9
https://www.planespotters.net/photo/481 ... dreamliner

Re: Ryanair backs Cork-US flights bid

Posted: 10 May 2016, 23:24
by Sbutty
they are planning to use the 737 max. This easily reaches Boston from Cork.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ ... le-737-max

Re: Ryanair backs Cork-US flights bid

Posted: 11 May 2016, 06:42
by RyanairBristol
Wow. Turns out I was wrong. That's amazing that the MAX can do that trip

Re: Ryanair backs Cork-US flights bid

Posted: 11 May 2016, 10:56
by Ryanairmadrid
The B738 MAX can do the trip?
So may be Ryanair could potentially use it?

We will see.

Re: Ryanair backs Cork-US flights bid

Posted: 11 May 2016, 18:21
by Sbutty
I think what is more likely is Ruanair feeding into this service. My opinion is Ryanair have give up chasing that transatlantic dream and I foresee them feeding into aer lingus etc

Re: Ryanair backs Cork-US flights bid

Posted: 12 May 2016, 16:12
by RyanairBristol
Sbutty wrote:I think what is more likely is Ruanair feeding into this service. My opinion is Ryanair have give up chasing that transatlantic dream and I foresee them feeding into aer lingus etc
I think that would be most likely. So many problems with the US unions. It happend to Norwegian